Videos of great musicians big traffic with MUCH more potential

Questions 15 public, 3 deleted

1. 

   Posted by:

   aRxS (+6)

   Date:

   Sun, 20 Jan 2008 09:46:31 GMT

   other than banner advertising, have you tried adsense or others?

   and how many members do have? and how to get a good source of videos? It's quite a lot of work to manually browse through all music videos uploaded to youtube and find a good one.

2. 

   Posted by:

   mactac (+4)

   Date:

   Sun, 20 Jan 2008 17:06:05 GMT

   Oh, I forgot to mention:

   I have set up a forum using phpbb, it's just up with no traffic or posts or anything. Buyer can keep it or take it down.

   Also, the site is all in PHP and MySQL.

3. 

   Posted by:

   mactac (+4)

   Date:

   Sun, 20 Jan 2008 17:12:35 GMT

   Yes I tried adsense on & off just to see what it would bring in. I got mixed results & figured that going after websites with overlapping demographics would work much better (ie learn to play guitar, etc). I started it up halfway through a big traffic day & made $14 or so (probably would have been around $30 based on extrapolation if I had run it for the full day). Some days are good, Some days are close to zero.

   I've uploaded a screenshot of some adsense days that I had it running. I decided that I didn't want to run adsense anymore & focus on building the site & traffic & then go after some real advertisers, because it's such a niche site.

   I've also uploaded a screenshot of what the adsense ads look like.

   I have not tried any banner advertising at all. The only ad I have running is the text link under the video, and they have paid me $100 for the month.

   There are only 83 members, but there is currently no incentive for members to join other than posting comments. 99.9% of the traffic is people wanting to watch the videos. I was planning on setting it up so members can suggest videos. At the moment, membership is inconsequential to the site.

   Finding videos is VERY easy actually. You just search around on youtube and you can find more appropriate videos that you could ever post. This was never a problem. Also, there are a ton of musicians forums out there with threads about youtube videos... you can just go through those & post all the videos that people talk about. There is an endless supply of good videos.

4. 

   Posted by:

   Comfis (+5)

   Date:

   Wed, 23 Jan 2008 09:49:04 GMT

   the stats are not pretty clear, because i can't see exactly how was the traffic in january! is it 1000 or more? Can you explain these peaks in traffic (is this traffic from social bookmarks)?

   if i understood social bookmarks is your main source of traffic? the site has strong brand name? i see that there is some direct traffic?

   any links from other sites that bring you traffic?

   where did you start the site?

5. 

   Posted by:

   wing (+2)

   Date:

   Wed, 23 Jan 2008 23:05:13 GMT

   I know about this script you have on the site, it's pretty cool.

   In what way has the script been modified?

   What kind of license did you get for it?

   Did you buy the right to remove the copyright link?

6. 

   Posted by:

   mactac (+4)

   Date:

   Thu, 24 Jan 2008 23:23:50 GMT

   >the stats are not pretty clear, because i can't see exactly how was the traffic in january! is it 1000 or more? Can you explain these >peaks in traffic (is this traffic from social bookmarks)?

   You're right, it's hard to tell by the graph. Here are the daily pageviews from the last 30 days as per google analytics:

   Dec 24 782
   Dec 25 572
   Dec 26 589
   Dec 27 8,105
   Dec 28 15,003
   Dec 29 11,296
   Dec 30 8,156
   Dec 31 5,120
   Jan 1 2,948
   Jan 2 12,847
   Jan 3 6,227
   Jan 4 5,126
   Jan 5 9,851
   Jan 6 6,728
   Jan 7 2,332
   Jan 8 2,531
   Jan 9 1,981
   Jan 10 1,152
   Jan 11 1,645
   Jan 12 1,708
   Jan 13 1,509
   Jan 14 1,691
   Jan 15 3,568
   Jan 16 2,899
   Jan 17 1,492
   Jan 18 2,879
   Jan 19 1,876
   Jan 20 2,743
   Jan 21 2,046
   Jan 22 987
   Jan 23 1,036
   Jan 24 351 (today)

   Traffic seems to go up & down a lot. The last few days have been low.

   >if i understood social bookmarks is your main source of traffic? the site has strong brand name? i see that there is some direct >traffic?

   Social bookmarks do seem to drive a lot of the traffic. Google does indicate a lot of direct traffic, but it's always tough to determine what that actually means. Taken at face value, it would show people who simply typed in the domain name, but I've always suspected that sometimes it just doesn't pick up the referrer.

   A note on the social bookmarks: I did have a problem with digg accepting submissions form the domain at one point, and started using killerchops.net (instead of .tv) to submit to digg, which seems to work fine (and goes directly to killerchops.tv).

   >any links from other sites that bring you traffic?

   I just added a screenshot of the referrals. You'll see that the time on site (over 1 min) is pretty good for 'direct'. Talkbass is a bass players forum that I belong to (the site is in my signature, I'll probably take it out when I sell the site). I would recommend to the buyer to start posting in all the musicians forums (without spamming!) and put the url in your signature. It seems to work well.

   After looking at the referral list, I do remember that I *did* market the site *very* minimally - I signed up with adwords & they gave me a $50 credit, and used some of the ads for this site & some of the ads for other sites I run. I can't rememebr how much was actually spent on killerchops.tv, probably $20 or so.

   >where did you start the site?

   if you mean *when* did I start the site, I started it in november.

7. 

   Posted by:

   mactac (+4)

   Date:

   Thu, 24 Jan 2008 23:33:05 GMT

   >In what way has the script been modified?

   I have modified it in a few ways. Off the top of my head:
   - the ability to search for up to 100 yahoo videos at a time
   - added place for ad code
   - added forums
   - added social bookmarking submit links
   - made the feedback form work with network solutions properly
   - added the ability to add blog-style descriptions to videos by directly editing the database, for example on this one:
   http://www.killerchops.tv/musicvideo.php?vid=6c93c8cd4

   note: this change is recent, and there only a few videos with descriptions like this. The whole reason that this was to add value to the video so digg users would not get upset and accuse it of video splogging. Basically, the idea is to add a good description & some links to any video that you decide to actively promote. I think in the end it makes for a more valuable site if some descriptions and further information is put up for some videos like this.

   I can also help with changes on the script.... I would work this out directly with the buyer.

   >What kind of license did you get for it?
   >Did you buy the right to remove the copyright link?

   I paid for it. Not sure what you mean about the copyright link? Maybe message me with more info.

8. 

   Posted by:

   mactac (+4)

   Date:

   Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:00:59 GMT

   Regarding this item:

   >>What kind of license did you get for it?
   >>Did you buy the right to remove the copyright link?

   I looked into this, and yes, I had purchased the right to remove the copyright link. It's a full license for the scripts. The rest of the modifications were done by myself, and are copyright free.

9. 

   Posted by:

   style0 (+1)

   Date:

   Tue, 05 Feb 2008 01:16:50 GMT

   Well, cool concept, even though My personal beilef as an "Accomplished musician" is that it'd take some work to get a good throw-off.

   But then again, being personally interested in the niche for obvious reasons, I like it. Pulling this kind of narrow field of videos really suites the domains. And with a gigantic design overhaul it might even be good looking in the end.

   Just out of couriosity: Did you build the site out of personal interest, or just as a plain business opportunity?
   Also, have you done a decent job documenting you alterations to the script, for easy identification for future code work?

10. 

    Posted by:

    mactac (+4)

    Date:

    Tue, 05 Feb 2008 02:28:42 GMT

    >Well, cool concept, even though My personal beilef as an "Accomplished musician" is that it'd take some work to get a >good throw-off.

    thanks.

    >But then again, being personally interested in the niche for obvious reasons, I like it. Pulling this kind of narrow >field of videos really suites the domains.

    I think that whomever takes it over would have an advantage if they themselves were a musician (as I am). It would make finding relevant videos easier, and it would be more interesting keeping it up-to-date.

    >And with a gigantic design overhaul it might even be good looking in the end.

    haha. :)

    >Just out of couriosity: Did you build the site out of personal interest, or just as a plain business opportunity?
    >Also, have you done a decent job documenting you alterations to the script, for easy identification for future code work?

    I'm a musician, and I started it because there are so many musicians forums out there with threads about videos & links to them. I thought it would be really nice to have them all in one place. I've noticed that people are enjoying it because the average time-on-site is actually quite good.... I never had the intention of selling it, but I literally have no time (I run a pretty major international b2b website with 600,000 members, plus a bunch of consulting work) to put towards it, and I think it's got potential. I figured that someone could pick up the ball with it and get it rolling.

    A lot of the traffic comes from social bookmarking and musicians forums - I put the link in my signature & post a lot, I also submit the really good videos to social bookmark sites & send it out to my friend list. The really nice thing is that if yo pick the right videos they seem to go viral fairly well... The downside is that I've found it does require some work - I haven't touched the site or done any posting or anything in the last couple of weeks & the traffic has taken a major nosedive. If you keep adding videos & do some minor networking on it, it should keep up the traffic & likely grw as it gains som more traction (it's still a very young site).

    I should also mention that in the next few days I'm going to be adding (script based) tab database to the site with 150,000+ tabs. t will be seperate from the site's code & will likely be at tabs.KillerChops.tv. This should help with the sites traffic as well I imagine, especially if some SEO work is done on it

11. 

    Posted by:

    djmambo123 (+1)

    Date:

    Sat, 16 Feb 2008 22:43:55 GMT

    you never answered the questions on copy rights at least i didnt see you did

12. 

    Posted by:

    mactac (+4)

    Date:

    Sat, 16 Feb 2008 22:47:14 GMT

    Hi - I'm not sure which question you are referring to?

    Someone asked if I bought a lic. for the script that allows me to remove the copyright notices, and yes I did pay for it.
    Is that what you mean?