TrailConditions.com

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$25,000 USD

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19-year-old Snowmobiling // Winter Sports Site with 115,000 Monthly Pageviews

Millions Of Visitors since 1998. Early Revenue Producer When Other Sites Of The Dot Com Era Couldn't Make It.

At a glance ?

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Site Type
Content
Platform
Site Age
19 years

Traffic ?

Page Views
230,364
Unique Visits
8,620

Financials ?

Gross Revenue
$1,200
Net Profit
$1,194
AdSense Revenue
$396

Traffic ?

Uniques Page Views
Jan 17 12,014 382,583
Dec 16 9,354 239,747
Nov 16 4,494 68,763
Oct 16 3,654 43,483
Sep 16 2,889 37,266
Aug 16 2,416 33,857
Jul 16 2,065 17,857
Jun 16 2,127 16,467
May 16 2,485 24,935
Apr 16 4,001 69,874
Mar 16 7,375 150,664
Feb 16 16,914 450,862

Traffic Health ?

Pages / Session
5.44
Avg. Session Duration
00:04:23
Bounce Rate
21.63%

Top Channels ?

Page Views % of Total
Direct 243,997 64%
Referral 76,832 20%
Organic Search 61,748 16%
Social 6 0.0016%

Top Countries ?

Page Views
United States 379,060
Canada 1,520
(not set) 1,124
United Kingdom 120
Brazil 40

Financials ?

Monetization Methods

  • This website earns revenue with Google AdSense
  • This website also earns revenue with Advertising Sales. It is recommended to request a video walk through from the seller to verify all revenue claims.

Last 12 Months Claimed Revenue and Profit

Revenue Costs Profit
Feb 16 $741 $6 $735
Mar 16 $289 $6 $283
Apr 16 $1,978 $6 $1,972
May 16 $76 $6 $70
Jun 16 $72 $6 $66
Jul 16 $81 $6 $75
Aug 16 $115 $6 $109
Sep 16 $128 $6 $122
Oct 16 $149 $6 $143
Nov 16 $172 $6 $166
Dec 16 $3,280 $6 $3,274
Jan 17 $441

Seller's Notes

Seller Questionnaire

How is your business monetized?

Advertising

Are you the original owner of the business?

No

When did you buy the business, and how has it changed since you took over?

Spring 1999

Which platform does the website use?

Vbulletin

Where is the site hosted and will this need to change after purchase?

Arvixe. it could stay.

Why are you selling the business?

I am semi retired, have other interests.

Can the website’s revenue be accurately tracked back to the website?

Yes, revenue can be accurately tracked back to the business.

If necessary, do you have tax returns available to support your revenue claims

Yes, this proof can be provided to serious buyers and/or Flippa Marketplace Integrity.

Are you willing to provide live revenue verification?

Yes, upon request from serious buyers and/or Flippa marketplace integrity.

What are the main expenses of the business? 

Hosting, Domain name fees.

Please list all domain names you are including in the sale

  • TrailConditions.com
  • Trailconditions.net
  • Trailconditions.org
  • SnowmobileTrailConditions.com, .net and .org
  • ATVTrailconditions.com

Are you including any social media accounts in the sale?

No

Are there any email lists included in the sale?

Yes, Vbulletin boards list, about 8000 people.

What are the primary traffic sources of the site? (Choose the top 2)

Direct - Our site was established in 1998, its members come back.

Do you use, or have you experimented with, social media marketing?

Yes, I have in the past but not currently.

Have you done any Search Engine Optimization?

No, I have not done any SEO.

Do you or have you ever purchased traffic?

No, I have never purchased traffic.

Has the site ever received any search engine penalties (manual or algorithmic)?

No, to my knowledge my site has never received any search engine penalties.

Do you use, or have you experimented with direct / display advertising?

No, I have not.

Do you have employees or contracts with freelancers?

No

How is the content of your website produced? 

By members of its community who post.

Task 1 - New Member Processing & Sales
Description - Approving new members. Selling new ads
Hours Per Week - 3

Task 2 - Moderation
Description - volunteer moderators keep the community safe and handle members request.
Hours Per Week - 3

Does the owner need specific skillsets in order to successfully operate the site?

No

What makes your website better than its competition?

TrailConditions.com was one of the first forum board snowmobile websites on the net. Check its SEO information on the auction ad.

Which ad networks does the website utilize?

AdSense & we have always sold our own advertising.

Are all ad networks transferable to the new owner?

Yes

Does your website utilize direct advertising?

No

Are you willing to sign a 3-year non-compete contract?

Yes

Will you provide 1-3 months of post-sale support & training?

Yes

What are the primary growth opportunities for the business going forward?

If a new owner puts in the time and some money in the site, I can help them get TC back to being a 100,000 + member site again.

Are there any geographical limitations to the potential buyer of the business?

No, there are no geographic limitations.

Seller's additional comments

This is going to be lengthy, but no real opportunity to make money and notoriety can be achieved without fully understanding that opportunity.

TrailConditions.com is more than a Snowmobile website, its Domain covers all types of outside recreational sports.  Hiking, Mountain Hiking, Skiing, Cross Country Skiing, Snowboarding, Mountain Biking, ATV Trails, Horse Trails, Running Trails, Motorcycle Trail Riding, 4x4 Trails.

TtrailConditions.com is a seasonal website that is a winter snowmobile site. it reports the snowmobile trails. Our strong base is New York state and Pennsylvania. Most of our members are Clubs, Groomers and officals. There are the well respected members and are a close net group. Look at the views on the site for posts our members make, many of the visitors that come to TrailConditions.com don't post, they come to read our posts and generate thousands of page views. A typical Jan if its a good snowy season will generate about 1 million page views. Last year was a low snow fall season, the site only generated 545,000 page views for the month of January. Average site sessions duration last winter season was over 5 minutes, with 6.7 page views per visitor. The bounce rate goes down under 20% during the snowmobile season. Last season which was November 1, 2015 through March 31, 2016 we had 56,913 vistors, it was a EL Nino season had very low snowfall, thus lower site traffic. In a good winter season for snowfall, we get around 140,000 visitors, millions of page views. This winter is off to a normal snowfall season and our traffic and page views are up from last years. 

Here is a full history of the site:

TrailConditions.com domain was created and registered on Jan. 10, of 1998. The site was originally built by an avid snowmobiler and web tech, who was also a stay at home mother at the time. Once she launched TrailConditions.com in Jan. of ‘98, it was an overnight hit. She was involved in Snowmobile clubs in New York. Many of the club’s members came to the site for their first experience on a website. Word of mouth carried it to be one of the first and most trafficked snowmobile sites on the World Wide Web. Soon this stay at home Mom working on a budget and getting some sponsors and donations to pay for the expenses, had to stop registrations. Back in the beginning of the web, hosting was very expensive for sites that had traffic. Another problem was the use of pearl scripts for the forum boards. VBulletin wasn't out at this point, so bandwidth from pearl scripts being used with posted messages was like using a Teletype machine and shut down shared servers. She decided the best move for the site and community was to sell it to a company who could afford the high server costs and put TC on its own server. My company heard about the site and had built our dealership site, ClassicMuscleCars.com in Oct of 1997. Our goal was to acquire sites that were sports driven that would tie back into the fast cars and muscle cars we sold. TC was a nice fit. Most snowmobilers like to go fast and are also gear heads (a term used to describe people into driving and working on fast collector cars). Once we struck up a deal to buy TC in spring of ‘99 and a signed non-compete clause, we were off to get TC its own server. We moved the site that had been on a shared server in New York to it own server in Chicago, at a cost of $4,000 per month. Now the site could grow. We opened up registrations again and soon had 92,000 members. In 2002 we needed to upgrade the pearl scripts. We had an experienced tech that worked with pearl scripts in Arkansas to work with Albert (our tech) and redo the site. At that time we moved TC again to another server in Chicago and lowered our cost to $2,500 per month. In 2003 we hired Rob Huckstadt, who was one of our ad reps for Car and Truck magazine, as a part time seasonal ad rep for TC. He generated about $2,000 in ad revenue for his first season on TC in ‘03. The next year our tech and webmaster, Albert, wanted to install the new VBulletin scripts version 3 that was released in March of ’03. We installed it by the fall of ‘03. At that time we went to another server that lowered our costs to $650 per month. In late 2004 before the season started, Albert started feeling sick a lot of time. He was diagnosed with cancer in 2005 and died from it in 2006. During that period of time we had a lot of problems with that version of VBulletin 3. Albert did his best to take care of the problems but they were getting out of hand, due to his waning health. TC was vulnerable at that time. One of our members had started his own site in ‘02, I will disclose this site to you if you ask for it in an email. He PMed our main members and coaxed the main members to move to his site. Soon a lot of our traffic followed. Still today after all these years that site enjoys its strong traffic it gained from TrailConditions.com. The evidence of that is lack of listings on major search engines for the most important keywords: Trail Conditions and Snowmobile Trail Conditions. They are non-existent when these keywords are searched for the website that stole traffic from TrailConditions.com.  TrailConditions.com remains at the top listing of all major search engines for the keywords Trail Conditions. I have made solid reliable plans to get our traffic back that we lost, and will work with the new owners to make it so. I am committed to the memory of our webmaster and tech to see that the success of TrailConditions.com be all of what we saw when we first became involved in it in 1999. Our plans were to use the domain for what its best use would be, to cover all trail related sports; skiing, cross country skiing, hiking trails, mountain bike trails, 4x4 truck trails, ATV trails and snowmobile trail conditions world wide. TrailConditions.com has huge potential to become one of the top sports sites in the world. Its domain means what it says. Also included in its sale are the main domains, TrailConditions.net and .org. SnowmobileTrailConditions.com, .net, .org. and ATVTrailConditions.com. In Dec. of 2013 we moved the site to its current server at Arvixe.com. The site was completely upgraded to Vbulletin 4.2; we decided to go with 4.2 because of its reliability instead of 5.0, which was supposedly having technical problems. We had a new site built,http://trailconditions.hoop.la/home to handle some of the traffic of TC while we were redoing the site. TrailConditions.com main site was fully completed by the 3rd week of Jan 2014. Traffic numbers are coming back with new people; the site was at 18% for new visitors for years. Now we are seeing an increase of 26% this past year and current season. During the move we had to clean out our database. It was full of spammers, (common for older versions of Vbulletin which allowed them put in thousands of emails and mass mail them out), which made our membership look like it was 750,000, bad for the site. TC currently has 8,000 members with 20 new member sign ups per day in season (all of which we inspect their profiles to avoid spammers). I am have traffic history from Google analytics that we started back in Nov. 2 of 2009. Advertising: Rob Huckstadt sold approximately $85,000 in ads from 2004 until and through the 2010 season. Some of our bigger advertisers were Yamaha at $7,500 per season at their peak with us, Sled the Rockies at $4,000 per season, Travel Wisconsin $4,500 per season. We started Google advertising in Dec. of 2005 till present. A total for Dec. 2005 till Aug. 2012 is approximately $89,036.82. We stopped selling our in house ads after the 2010 season when I went into semi-retirement. The Google ads have been on autopilot and need to be monetized to produce more income. A combined advertising total from 2004 through 2016 is approximately $174,397.35. When I have looked at the whole picture, I have a lot of money and time in TrailConditions.com, which was only a side business to our main business that was selling Classic Muscle Cars of the 50's 60's and 70's. It never got the full push that was needed to make it a multi-million dollar website. It still has that potential. My time to pursue that goal has now turned into retirement and filming and producing a new concept reality TV Show. I want to see the site get back to its former prominence and move forward to become one of the dominant Trail Conditions site in the world. I will work with the new owners to get more of its traffic back it once had. I will turn over my traffic plans to do so and future plans for growth. Looking at the current picture of what the site is worth and the domains included, I realize I need to be realistic. The domain name Market is very active and thriving, much growth is expected this year, last year was another record year for the industry. Looking at the domain name of TrailConditions.com, it is a top-level domain with top search engine placement and brand identity. It’s aged by 18 years and has 130,000,000 references to the keywords TRAIL CONDITIONS on Google alone. TrailConditions.com/link on Goggle is 242,000. I value the domain TrailConditions.com at $15,000. I value the .net and .org extensions $1,500 each for a total of $3,000. SnowmobileTrailConditions.com has 469,000 references for the keywords SNOWMOBILE TRAIL CONDITIONS on Google alone. Currently we use this as a pointer to TrailConditions.com. I value this domain at $3,000. The .net, .org extensions I value at $1,000 each for a total of $2,000. ATVTrailConditions.com has 826,000 references for the keywords on Google alone. I value this domain at $2,000. I spent $15,000 in 2014 to revamp TrailConditions.com. I am looking to sell the site and will look at all offers. 

 Look at TrailConditions.com SEO Presence, only sites with a lot of history get these high marks, it will never go away on the net. Do your homework, a site like this doesn't come along very often for sale. It has unlimited potential.

Site Info

Site Established ? January 1998
Built With ?
Google Analytics Detected ? No
More info: BuiltWith

Domain Info

Domain Registered ? 10 January 1998
Registrar ? DOMAIN.COM
More info: Wayback Machine and Whois

Site Uniqueness

Content Unique ? Yes
Design Unique ? Yes
More info: Plagspotter and Copyscape

SEO Presence

Pages In Google ? 171,000
MajesticSEO Inbound Links ? 144,489
SEOmoz mozRank ? 4.97
Alexa Rank ? 1,701,400
More info: SEOmoz and SEMRush

Comments

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BuySites99 ( new )
Sat, 07 Jan 2017 09:31:59 AEDT

hi. can you verify earnings on flippa? screenshots proving payout does not prove its coming from this website..

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classicmusclecars ( | $25.5K )
Sat, 07 Jan 2017 10:08:42 AEDT

Earnings are not just from AdSense, more from banner sales and links. If you have an attorney, I will be glad to have our CPA/Tax Attorney turn over the information to him.
Thanks, Tony

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relentless ( new )
Sat, 07 Jan 2017 20:19:57 AEDT

Wow. LOTS of info. But, lots of questions.

As of today, how many members does the site have? How many are active (ie posted a comment in the last 30 days)

I'm trying to understand your numbers. I didn't understand the lifetime numbers you posted. It looks like you're saying the site generated about $89k over its lifetime, but your advertising costs were $174k. Is that correct? If so, that's a net loss of $85k. OR are you saying the $89k was in-house advertising and the balance came from Google ads? If so, where is the proof of the in-house sales?

Your verified uniques vs page views seems very disproportionate. At the height of the chart above, it shows almost 600k page views, but only 22k visitors. That's about 27 page views per user.

Other than some of your top members leaving, what contributed to the massive dive in traffic and page views? You mentioned you sold links. Did you get penalized by Google?

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classicmusclecars ( | $25.5K )
Sun, 08 Jan 2017 01:26:22 AEDT

I suggest you reread the full history, a lot of what your asking is covered. I went over the history of TrailConditions.com since I owned it. I am not trying to sell the site based on the income it generated from 2004 to 2016, if I was, I would have that proof up. When Jan is over, the google stats will be different and much higher. This is a very sticky site, I said in the ads write up, most of viewers don't post. Viewers read the posts and the page views go up in season.
A point I would like to make, how many sites do you find for sale that have this kind of history to look at, right? I ran a 5 million dollar a year Collector Car business during the years we ran TrailConditions.com, I never had the time to devote to it. It has huge potential to the right Media Company or individual.
I would like to comment about the members of TrailConditions.com. We did not lose our senior core members of TrailConditions, a lot of them have been a site member since 1997. One of the reasons we have so many viewers in season is from our posts by our highly respected Snowmobiling long time members. The traffic we lost is basically the viewers who come to read the posts on TrailConditions. I can show the new owners of TrailConditions.com how to get that traffic back as signed up members on TrailConditions.com. We have hundreds of members that make hundreds to thousands of posts, I will show that to a buyer when we have a deal together, the buyer will have to sign a Non Disclosure. I have to protect my members privacy.
Thanks for your question, hope this helps you and others that are interested in TrailConditions.com.

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relentless ( new )
Sun, 08 Jan 2017 06:34:18 AEDT

@classicmusclecars I read your listing. Twice. I'd suggest you remove a lot of the unnecessary info. It would make it much easier to understand.

Can you clarify this, "We did not lose our senior core members of TrailConditions, a lot of them have been a site member since 1997. One of the reasons we have so many viewers in season is from our posts by our highly respected Snowmobiling long time members. **The traffic we lost is basically the viewers who come to read the posts on TrailConditions.**"

Again, can you address this:

Your verified uniques vs page views seems very disproportionate. At the height of the chart above, it shows almost 600k page views, but only 22k visitors. That's about 27 page views per user.

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classicmusclecars ( | $25.5K )
Sun, 08 Jan 2017 09:22:27 AEDT

@relentless Over a decade ago when we lost many of our members to the other snowmobile site, they continue to come come back to TrailConditions to view our posts. They need to be converted back to members, rejoin TrailConditions.com again. As far the Google stats go, you would need to ask Google, its their information. Go to the site and look at the posts on TC, at the bottom of the post you will see the members that looked at the post, this is not viewers, they are not members. Hope this helps, if you have more questions you can PM me. Thanks, Tony

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classicmusclecars ( | $25.5K )
Sun, 29 Jan 2017 05:39:17 AEDT

Trailconditions.com is a seasonal site for winter. We have done most of our business for selling ads, links of anything related from Aug through mid April. One of the ad boxes for parts for example brings in 600 a year. I don't go out and look for or sell ads anymore. If a lead comes into me, I will work it and get the money. If you started to go after advertisers again, you could triple or quadruple the income that was shown for last year. One huge difference maker that needs to be done is to get the ATV forum boards cranked up. I haven't put any time or money to develop it. Many Snowmobilers own ATV's. I am including a great domain with this auction to help with that, ATVTrailConditions.com. I can show you how to get this going, but it will take some work on your part. Once that board starts to flourish, the sites traffic will increase tremendously and will become a year round site. I will also work with you to get back our lost traffic and members back from TC, it could happen in one season, but you will have to put some money and time into it. I want to see this site go to someone who will do something with it and build on to what I started. I have interest from media company's, its a great opportunity for the right person or company. Thanks, Tony

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classicmusclecars ( | $25.5K )
Wed, 01 Feb 2017 01:11:05 AEDT

After some time to think about selling TrailConditions.com, I have come to a hard decision. Its time to let it go. Being personally involved in a website forum for so many years, you get emotionally attached. I and my staff from years ago made a lot of friends on TC, we had TC get togethers back in the early days, made and sold T-Shirts to members. We were at one time the largest site of its kind in the world, I want to see it get back to that prominence. Once we lost our Webmaster and my good friend Albert to cancer, the wind went out of our sails. I started filming a TV Car Show in Chicago and had a gruelling schedule. TrailConditions.com's needs became secondary when it needed attention from me. Its time to let the site go to a new owner who can understand the history and impact that TrailConditions.com has had on the Sport of Snowmobiling and get it back to what it was. The core members that have stuck with TrailConditions.com are some of the most influential and prominent members in the sport. If they are treated right and with the respect they deserve, they will help to get the site back to its glorious early days on the net.

Therefore I have made the painful decision to drop the reserve and let TrailConditions.com have a new owner. This auction is not about how much the site makes today, its about tomorrow and what the future can hold for the new owners. You must understand the history of the sport of snowmobiling on the Internet was born with this site. You must take care of its community of members and be committed to getting the site back to its full potential and prominence that it deserves. If you listen to my advice, you can get TrailConditions.com back with over 100,000 members in just one season and make money in that process.

I chose Flippa to sell TrailConditions.com, they are one of the best in the world at what they do. I knew it would get the exposure it needs to get TC the right new owner. If you have questions, feel free to ask, if you read through the history I wrote, you will know that I have a history with this site as well. Good Luck and I look forward to working with a new owner in the transition.

Thanks, Tony

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edsbrain ( | $309 )
Thu, 02 Feb 2017 11:21:03 AEDT

Social media accounts are not in the sale? Please explain why. Thanks

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classicmusclecars ( | $25.5K )
Thu, 02 Feb 2017 11:47:38 AEDT

@edsbrain Good question. Our traffic doesn't come from social media, we tried in 2014, it didn't make any difference, most of our members and traffic comes straight in. We are at 83.9% returning visitor and 16.1% new visitor for Jan. Its average sessions is 5:40 and bounce rate is 16.68% . Its a very sticky site, in season people come and stay awhile.

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edsbrain ( | $309 )
Thu, 02 Feb 2017 13:06:29 AEDT

Ok. Sounds good. But does the site have social media pages?

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classicmusclecars ( | $25.5K )
Fri, 03 Feb 2017 01:36:43 AEDT

@edsbrain Yes, one on facebook, we never use it, its not included in the sale.
I wanted to further comment on our bounce rate. This is a very important statistic. A high bounce rate is like getting customers showing up to the front door of your business but they don't come in a look at what you have for sale.

Yesterday, Feb 1, we had 1,538 users, (or customers to use that example). They came in the site and looked at 22,228 pages and stayed an average of 7:06 minutes. TrailConditions.com's bounce rate yesterday, was 12.13%, that's a fantastic rate, it means our viewers who come stay around, look at pages of posts and view more ads.

Lets say if we would have had 10,000 users yesterday and a bounce rate in the 70-80 present range, we would of had less page views and average time spent on the site. That's like showing up to a store, going in the front door, taking a quick look around, not interested and leave. As we say in the car business, you have tire kickers and buyers, but you have to get them on the lot and though the door and spend time with them to sell them.

So to sum it up, the lower the bounce rate, the better chance you have to make revenue.

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classicmusclecars ( | $25.5K )
Fri, 03 Feb 2017 01:50:39 AEDT

@classicmusclecars
I think it would be good to add social media, we never tried to develop it after we briefly tried it. Another great addition to the site, would be to build an app for it.

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edsbrain ( | $309 )
Fri, 03 Feb 2017 02:43:00 AEDT

I'm sorry. Maybe I'm not making myself clear! Did you create the actual account on the social media sites? If so we should see what they are and take them over. They should be included in the sale whether you had success with them or not. Naming of a social media site is soon becoming as hard as grabbing an appropriate domain name. If you have them please consider showing all of us what they are called on their associated outlet and further consider offering them with the sale. Thanks again and I apologize in advance for any brevity.

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andybeales ( new )
Fri, 03 Feb 2017 03:38:53 AEDT

Hi, as a UX (User Experience) guy the first thing I want to do is to hit the site as a new user, looking for information, things for sale or conditions of a trail in a few states. I found it hard to find any data, forum posts in the 4 regions I selected, one I picked was not such a popular state for snow mobiles, Ohio, but it had a post linking to a new site. A couple of the states had some sort of post at the top mentioning registering as a new user. So as a 'first time visitor' just browsing the forum, it was hard to see posts, and when I read the only headline forum post about registering for the new site at the top of these forums, it linked to a dead link http://trailconditions.hoop.la/home with page errors. When I see these things and get confused it makes me nervous. I wonder if I have to register to view content. Also a as a new visitor one of the first things I want to click is BLOGS, I want to read stories, learn something, learn about who runs this site, I get a page error also taking me to the new site. Saying: Site Not Found, trailconditions.hoop.laIf you are the site owner and you are trying to set up this domain for one of our services, please contact us at https://www.socialstrata.com/support. Social Strata, Inc.

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classicmusclecars ( | $25.5K )
Fri, 03 Feb 2017 04:33:14 AEDT

@andybeales First of all, if you read what I put in my ad, I talk about using your services, we did that while we were setting up the new V Bulletin boards, which I have to say, our members prefer to what you offer. I personally like what your company offers, but using it for I think 2 years, it was too expensive, I dropped about 3k total in that project. None of our members ever used all the cool stuff you guys have. We had features like you have in the late 90's on TrailConditions.com, it worked then but it doesn't work with my members now. I left all the links up so that a new owner can make that decision to reuse your services or not. In regards to Ohio, if a state doesn't have much snow during the winter months, there is no trails or snowmobilers, you won't get many posters. TrailConditions.com is going to have a new owner, I am sure they will contact you if they want to set something up with you or remove the links back to you. Thanks, Tony

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andybeales ( new )
Fri, 03 Feb 2017 04:43:12 AEDT

Sorry Tony, I am not sure who you think I am, I am just a guy with some other snow sport sites considering buying your site, but I could not understand what this other site and links to are in the forums.

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classicmusclecars ( | $25.5K )
Fri, 03 Feb 2017 04:58:29 AEDT

@andybeales Sorry Andy, The people at hoopla have been trying to get me back and use them again, I thought you were one of them.

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classicmusclecars ( | $25.5K )
Fri, 03 Feb 2017 06:17:24 AEDT

@edsbrain Yes, we did create one on Facebook, TrailConditions.com click on the front page and you can see it. I agree social media is important, but if a strong .com domain is chosen and works, your reliance for social media is lessened. As time goes on, more and more money will be charged for use on social media sites. A site that is heavily invested in social media sites for their traffic, is at the mercy of that social media site. TrailConditions.com has a proven track record of success and completely independent of reliance in getting its traffic from elsewhere. If I had the time during my ownership, I could have built TC it into a multi million dollar site, it still can be. I put my time instead into building my Collector Car Business and filming my TV Show. My life has caught up to me, I can no longer devote the time to TC, I want someone who gets it, to take the ball and run with it. As far as the TrailConditions.com page on Facebook goes, I talked to my designer who did the front page on TC in 2013-14 and set up the page onFacebook, she said she will provide me with the keys for the page, which I will turn over to you if YOU buy it. I want a clean, no BS sell, I don't want any hoops to jump through, when I made up my mind to finally sell TC, I am going to do just that. Someone or company is going to get a heck of a deal, the price its at now is less than I had to pay for hosting for 2 months (8k) in 1999, so you can imagine how much time and money I have invested in TrailConditions.com. Good Luck on bidding. Thanks, Tony

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classicmusclecars ( | $25.5K )
Sat, 04 Feb 2017 23:41:11 AEDT

TrailConditions.com could get up to 250,000+ new members next season.

I have a solid plan that would work to get that many members for TrailConditions.com. I want to see the new owners take it be the #1 Trail Conditions site on the net.

The site needs to have a contest next season, which needs to start in the early September, to give away snowmobiles. The manufacturers would probably supply a snowmobile for sponsorship and advertising in exchange for a give away snowmobile. TrailConditions.com's history carries a lot of prestige, clout, credibility in the snowmobile community, the manufactures would want to be involved. We had Yamaha as one of our advertisers in our early years. They knew the value and importance of being on TrailConditions.com. The way this can be set up is to allow everyone to register as a member of TrailConditions.com to be in the give away. The script must be set up to allow everyone who keeps coming back a new entry for each visit when they come back in. This will quickly get the members built up, bring the traffic up to very high levels which will blow away what the site is doing in revenue now. The contest needs to run Sept through April 30 for the end of contest and give away. ATV Manufactures are also the snowmobile manufactures, you do it again for ATVs in early spring. This will quickly get TC back to being one of the top forums on the net, a POWER HOUSE!!!

Opportunity like this doesn't come along very often, if not ever. I may add a BIN price later on to the auction before it closes, watch for that. Good Luck to everyone, I look forward to working with the new owner for a smooth transition.

Thanks, Tony

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classicmusclecars ( | $25.5K )
Sun, 05 Feb 2017 10:14:48 AEDT

I am putting up a buy it now, I am including TrailConditions.com's facebook page and also our twitter account that I found today, its TrailConditions.com @TrailCondition1. This weren't included in the Auction, they are now with a buy it now purchase.

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