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$2,001 USD

18 days left

Well Know Winter Sports Site- #1 Snowmobile Trail Condition Site 1998-2005

Early Dot Com Popular Sports Site- Millions Of Visitors since 1998. Early Revenue Producer When Other Sites Of The Dot Com Era Couldn't Make It. Business Opportunity That Rarely Exist on Web Today

At a glance ?

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Site Type
Site Age
19 years

Traffic ?

Page Views
Unique Visits

Financials ?

Gross Revenue
Net Profit

Traffic ?

Uniques Page Views
Dec 16 9,226 234,795
Nov 16 4,494 68,763
Oct 16 3,654 43,483
Sep 16 2,889 37,266
Aug 16 2,416 33,857
Jul 16 2,065 17,857
Jun 16 2,127 16,467
May 16 2,485 24,935
Apr 16 4,001 69,874
Mar 16 7,375 150,664
Feb 16 16,914 450,862
Jan 16 22,901 545,737

Traffic Health ?

Pages / Session
Avg. Session Duration
Bounce Rate

Top Channels ?

Page Views % of Total
Direct 161,500 69%
Referral 41,455 18%
Organic Search 31,837 14%
Social 3 0.0013%

Top Countries ?

Page Views
United States 232,797
Canada 932
(not set) 743
Germany 70
India 39

Financials ?

Monetization Methods

  • This website earns revenue with Advertising Sales. It is recommended to request a video walk through from the seller to verify all revenue claims.

Last 12 Months Claimed Revenue and Profit

Revenue Costs Profit
Jan 16 $753 $6 $747
Feb 16 $741 $6 $735
Mar 16 $289 $6 $283
Apr 16 $1,978 $6 $1,972
May 16 $76 $6 $70
Jun 16 $72 $6 $66
Jul 16 $81 $6 $75
Aug 16 $115 $6 $109
Sep 16 $128 $6 $122
Oct 16 $149 $6 $143
Nov 16 $172 $6 $166
Dec 16 $3,280 $6 $3,274

Seller's Notes

This is going to be lengthy, but no real opportunity to make money and notoriety can be achieved without fully understanding that opportunity. is more than a Snowmobile website, its Domain covers all types of outside recreational sports.  Hiking, Mountain Hiking, Skiing, Cross Country Skiing, Snowboarding, Mountain Biking, ATV Trails, Horse Trails, Running Trails, Motorcycle Trail Riding, 4x4 Trails. is a seasonal website that is a winter snowmobile site. it reports the snowmobile trails. Our strong base is New York state and Pennsylvania. Most of our members are Clubs, Groomers and officals. There are the well respected members and are a close net group. Look at the views on the site for posts our members make, many of the visitors that come to don't post, they come to read our posts and generate thousands of page views. A typical Jan if its a good snowy season will generate about 1 million page views. Last year was a low snow fall season, the site only generated 545,000 page views for the month of January. Average site sessions duration last winter season was over 5 minutes, with 6.7 page views per visitor. The bounce rate goes down under 20% during the snowmobile season. Last season which was November 1, 2015 through March 31, 2016 we had 56,913 vistors, it was a EL Nino season had very low snowfall, thus lower site traffic. In a good winter season for snowfall, we get around 140,000 visitors, millions of page views. This winter is off to a normal snowfall season and our traffic and page views are up from last years. 

Here is a full history of the site: domain was created and registered on Jan. 10, of 1998. The site was originally built by an avid snowmobiler and web tech, who was also a stay at home mother at the time. Once she launched in Jan. of ‘98, it was an overnight hit. She was involved in Snowmobile clubs in New York. Many of the club’s members came to the site for their first experience on a website. Word of mouth carried it to be one of the first and most trafficked snowmobile sites on the World Wide Web. Soon this stay at home Mom working on a budget and getting some sponsors and donations to pay for the expenses, had to stop registrations. Back in the beginning of the web, hosting was very expensive for sites that had traffic. Another problem was the use of pearl scripts for the forum boards. VBulletin wasn't out at this point, so bandwidth from pearl scripts being used with posted messages was like using a Teletype machine and shut down shared servers. She decided the best move for the site and community was to sell it to a company who could afford the high server costs and put TC on its own server. My company heard about the site and had built our dealership site, in Oct of 1997. Our goal was to acquire sites that were sports driven that would tie back into the fast cars and muscle cars we sold. TC was a nice fit. Most snowmobilers like to go fast and are also gear heads (a term used to describe people into driving and working on fast collector cars). Once we struck up a deal to buy TC in spring of ‘99 and a signed non-compete clause, we were off to get TC its own server. We moved the site that had been on a shared server in New York to it own server in Chicago, at a cost of $4,000 per month. Now the site could grow. We opened up registrations again and soon had 92,000 members. In 2002 we needed to upgrade the pearl scripts. We had an experienced tech that worked with pearl scripts in Arkansas to work with Albert (our tech) and redo the site. At that time we moved TC again to another server in Chicago and lowered our cost to $2,500 per month. In 2003 we hired Rob Huckstadt, who was one of our ad reps for Car and Truck magazine, as a part time seasonal ad rep for TC. He generated about $2,000 in ad revenue for his first season on TC in ‘03. The next year our tech and webmaster, Albert, wanted to install the new VBulletin scripts version 3 that was released in March of ’03. We installed it by the fall of ‘03. At that time we went to another server that lowered our costs to $650 per month. In late 2004 before the season started, Albert started feeling sick a lot of time. He was diagnosed with cancer in 2005 and died from it in 2006. During that period of time we had a lot of problems with that version of VBulletin 3. Albert did his best to take care of the problems but they were getting out of hand, due to his waning health. TC was vulnerable at that time. One of our members had started his own site in ‘02, I will disclose this site to you if you ask for it in an email. He PMed our main members and coaxed the main members to move to his site. Soon a lot of our traffic followed. Still today after all these years that site enjoys its strong traffic it gained from The evidence of that is lack of listings on major search engines for the most important keywords: Trail Conditions and Snowmobile Trail Conditions. They are non-existent when these keywords are searched for the website that stole traffic from remains at the top listing of all major search engines for the keywords Trail Conditions. I have made solid reliable plans to get our traffic back that we lost, and will work with the new owners to make it so. I am committed to the memory of our webmaster and tech to see that the success of be all of what we saw when we first became involved in it in 1999. Our plans were to use the domain for what its best use would be, to cover all trail related sports; skiing, cross country skiing, hiking trails, mountain bike trails, 4x4 truck trails, ATV trails and snowmobile trail conditions world wide. has huge potential to become one of the top sports sites in the world. Its domain means what it says. Also included in its sale are the main domains, and .org., .net, .org. and In Dec. of 2013 we moved the site to its current server at The site was completely upgraded to Vbulletin 4.2; we decided to go with 4.2 because of its reliability instead of 5.0, which was supposedly having technical problems. We had a new site built, to handle some of the traffic of TC while we were redoing the site. main site was fully completed by the 3rd week of Jan 2014. Traffic numbers are coming back with new people; the site was at 18% for new visitors for years. Now we are seeing an increase of 26% this past year and current season. During the move we had to clean out our database. It was full of spammers, (common for older versions of Vbulletin which allowed them put in thousands of emails and mass mail them out), which made our membership look like it was 750,000, bad for the site. TC currently has 8,000 members with 20 new member sign ups per day in season (all of which we inspect their profiles to avoid spammers). I am have traffic history from Google analytics that we started back in Nov. 2 of 2009. Advertising: Rob Huckstadt sold approximately $85,000 in ads from 2004 until and through the 2010 season. Some of our bigger advertisers were Yamaha at $7,500 per season at their peak with us, Sled the Rockies at $4,000 per season, Travel Wisconsin $4,500 per season. We started Google advertising in Dec. of 2005 till present. A total for Dec. 2005 till Aug. 2012 is approximately $89,036.82. We stopped selling our in house ads after the 2010 season when I went into semi-retirement. The Google ads have been on autopilot and need to be monetized to produce more income. A combined advertising total from 2004 through 2016 is approximately $174,397.35. When I have looked at the whole picture, I have a lot of money and time in, which was only a side business to our main business that was selling Classic Muscle Cars of the 50's 60's and 70's. It never got the full push that was needed to make it a multi-million dollar website. It still has that potential. My time to pursue that goal has now turned into retirement and filming and producing a new concept reality TV Show. I want to see the site get back to its former prominence and move forward to become one of the dominant Trail Conditions site in the world. I will work with the new owners to get more of its traffic back it once had. I will turn over my traffic plans to do so and future plans for growth. Looking at the current picture of what the site is worth and the domains included, I realize I need to be realistic. The domain name Market is very active and thriving, much growth is expected this year, last year was another record year for the industry. Looking at the domain name of, it is a top-level domain with top search engine placement and brand identity. It’s aged by 18 years and has 130,000,000 references to the keywords TRAIL CONDITIONS on Google alone. on Goggle is 242,000. I value the domain at $15,000. I value the .net and .org extensions $1,500 each for a total of $3,000. has 469,000 references for the keywords SNOWMOBILE TRAIL CONDITIONS on Google alone. Currently we use this as a pointer to I value this domain at $3,000. The .net, .org extensions I value at $1,000 each for a total of $2,000. has 826,000 references for the keywords on Google alone. I value this domain at $2,000. I spent $15,000 in 2014 to revamp I am looking to sell the site and will look at all offers. 

 Look at SEO Presence, only sites with a lot of history get these high marks, it will never go away on the net. Do your homework, a site like this doesn't come along very often for sale. It has unlimited potential.

Site Info

Site Established ? January 1998
Built With ?
Google Analytics Detected ? No
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Domain Info

Domain Registered ? 10 January 1998
Registrar ? DOMAIN.COM
More info: Wayback Machine and Whois

Site Uniqueness

Content Unique ? No
Design Unique ? No
More info: Plagspotter and Copyscape

SEO Presence

Pages In Google ? 171,000
MajesticSEO Inbound Links ? 144,489
SEOmoz mozRank ? 4.97
Alexa Rank ? 1,701,400
More info: SEOmoz and SEMRush


BuySites99 ( new )
Sat, 07 Jan 2017 09:31:59 AEDT

hi. can you verify earnings on flippa? screenshots proving payout does not prove its coming from this website..

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classicmusclecars ( | $441 )
Sat, 07 Jan 2017 10:08:42 AEDT

Earnings are not just from AdSense, more from banner sales and links. If you have an attorney, I will be glad to have our CPA/Tax Attorney turn over the information to him.
Thanks, Tony

relentless ( new )
Sat, 07 Jan 2017 20:19:57 AEDT

Wow. LOTS of info. But, lots of questions.

As of today, how many members does the site have? How many are active (ie posted a comment in the last 30 days)

I'm trying to understand your numbers. I didn't understand the lifetime numbers you posted. It looks like you're saying the site generated about $89k over its lifetime, but your advertising costs were $174k. Is that correct? If so, that's a net loss of $85k. OR are you saying the $89k was in-house advertising and the balance came from Google ads? If so, where is the proof of the in-house sales?

Your verified uniques vs page views seems very disproportionate. At the height of the chart above, it shows almost 600k page views, but only 22k visitors. That's about 27 page views per user.

Other than some of your top members leaving, what contributed to the massive dive in traffic and page views? You mentioned you sold links. Did you get penalized by Google?

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classicmusclecars ( | $441 )
Sun, 08 Jan 2017 01:26:22 AEDT

I suggest you reread the full history, a lot of what your asking is covered. I went over the history of since I owned it. I am not trying to sell the site based on the income it generated from 2004 to 2016, if I was, I would have that proof up. When Jan is over, the google stats will be different and much higher. This is a very sticky site, I said in the ads write up, most of viewers don't post. Viewers read the posts and the page views go up in season.
A point I would like to make, how many sites do you find for sale that have this kind of history to look at, right? I ran a 5 million dollar a year Collector Car business during the years we ran, I never had the time to devote to it. It has huge potential to the right Media Company or individual.
I would like to comment about the members of We did not lose our senior core members of TrailConditions, a lot of them have been a site member since 1997. One of the reasons we have so many viewers in season is from our posts by our highly respected Snowmobiling long time members. The traffic we lost is basically the viewers who come to read the posts on TrailConditions. I can show the new owners of how to get that traffic back as signed up members on We have hundreds of members that make hundreds to thousands of posts, I will show that to a buyer when we have a deal together, the buyer will have to sign a Non Disclosure. I have to protect my members privacy.
Thanks for your question, hope this helps you and others that are interested in

relentless ( new )
Sun, 08 Jan 2017 06:34:18 AEDT

@classicmusclecars I read your listing. Twice. I'd suggest you remove a lot of the unnecessary info. It would make it much easier to understand.

Can you clarify this, "We did not lose our senior core members of TrailConditions, a lot of them have been a site member since 1997. One of the reasons we have so many viewers in season is from our posts by our highly respected Snowmobiling long time members. **The traffic we lost is basically the viewers who come to read the posts on TrailConditions.**"

Again, can you address this:

Your verified uniques vs page views seems very disproportionate. At the height of the chart above, it shows almost 600k page views, but only 22k visitors. That's about 27 page views per user.

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classicmusclecars ( | $441 )
Sun, 08 Jan 2017 09:22:27 AEDT

@relentless Over a decade ago when we lost many of our members to the other snowmobile site, they continue to come come back to TrailConditions to view our posts. They need to be converted back to members, rejoin again. As far the Google stats go, you would need to ask Google, its their information. Go to the site and look at the posts on TC, at the bottom of the post you will see the members that looked at the post, this is not viewers, they are not members. Hope this helps, if you have more questions you can PM me. Thanks, Tony

User ce0293f2 ( new )
Fri, 13 Jan 2017 11:18:03 AEDT

why are several of the links on the website not working?

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Px140x140 avatar 1422659025.469954cc0dd172bc86.17673915 classicmusclecars Tony Begley
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