How to Get the Most Out of Flippa and Not Feel Overwhelmed
Posted on July 14th, 2010 by Luke Moulton
The following is a guest post from Glen Allsopp from ViperChill.
I’ve been involved in buying and selling websites to the value of over $200,000 in the last few months on Flippa. I spend most of my time looking for “gems” to buy on the various online marketplaces and then spend the rest of my time trying to increase their revenue.

My other online time is spent blogging at ViperChill, where I write about internet marketing. Because I spent so much of my time buying sites on Flippa, I often write about my experiences and recommendations on the blog.
Surprisingly to me, every time I do this, I receive emails and comments from people saying that they feel totally overwhelmed by the service and simply “don’t know what to do.”
I decided to write this article for those people who are interested in buying a website but simply don’t know how to navigate Flippa or are looking for some concrete advice on what to look out for.
Have a Clear Focus on What It Is That You Want
If you open up the Flippa homepage on any day of the week you’ll find a variety of different websites. Clickbank-ready products, content sites, forums, blogs and physical product stores are just some of the site types you’ll find available for purchase. If you’ve just landed on the site and didn’t know there was so much variation between what’s out there, I can understand how you would feel overwhelmed.
And, as good as I think Flippa and the team that operate it are, there’s plenty of listings to be found where the listing information is just too good to be true. If you’re an inexperienced buyer, you could mistakenly think that there are some outstanding deals to be had without getting more information about what is for sale.
If you go to the site with a clear focus on what you want to buy, you’re less likely to be distracted by what is out there and less likely to be sucked in by the deals which make you feel extremely lucky to have found them.
I like to click on ‘buy websites’ as the first thing I do on the site and then site a price range in the search box to the left. I’m only interested in sites making at least $1,000 per month so I make sure I enter that into the relevant search of the form.
Browsing past listings which don’t meet this figure is simply a waste of time for me.
Have an idea of what you’re looking for – whether it’s site type or income range – and then narrow down your choices with the fields on the left.
Be Prepared to Ask the Right Questions
As stated, some listings appear far too good to be true. Because of this, it can be hard to see which ones are legitimate and which you shouldn’t waste your time on. I’ll be the first to admit that I don’t have a perfect success record with Flippa, having purchased a site or two which ended up being quite different to what I thought I had purchased.
In no order, here are some of the most common questions I ask sellers. Make sure you read the entire listing first to see that they haven’t been answered already:
- Why are you selling the site?
- How much time do you spend on it?
- What is that time spent doing?
- Will you sign a non-compete agreement?
- Can you add me as an account on your Google Analytics? (where applicable)
- Are you the original site owner?
- Can I see income proof for the past X months?
- Will you offer support for X weeks if I buy the site?
Of course you can tweak these to suit a specific deal or add to them if there’s other things you need to know about a site you wish to purchase.
Take Your Time
If I’m totally honest, the deals which didn’t work out very well for me were the ones which I rushed to close. Sites that I didn’t want to let slip into someone else’s hands – so I purchased quickly – sometimes did me more harm than good. Although you may also be anxious about losing a site to another buyer, it’s still worth taking the time to check everything you can thoroughly.
Surprisingly or not, there are great websites that pop up every single week if you do miss a site because you were careful not to get scammed and took your time while another member snapped it up.
In my opinion, it’s much better to regret missing out on a website then purchasing one. Especially if you’re spending a substantial amount of money.
Things to Watch Out For
Last but not least, I think an important thing for anyone who is looking to buy sites on Flippa can do is be aware of the things they should watch out for. If I had this list when I first started becoming active on Flippa – and sites like it – I would have saved myself a lot of time and money.
The first, and perhaps most obvious point I have to say here is that if a deal seems too good to be true then it probably is. Sites making a great amount of money for a long period of time rarely sell for less than 12 months revenue; especially if the owner is not putting much effort into it.
Ask yourself why someone would sell the site in this case rather than just sit on it and collect the money.
The second thing I recommend you look out for are the product / eBook sites that regularly appear in the listings. Their first few months’ finances tend to look great and the BIN price is sometimes less than a year’s estimated income. In this case, you mustn’t forget that these product sites have huge launches behind them so the first few months are always the most profitable.
Finally, something I quickly learned was to account for the money you’re going to need to spend to replace the work of the site owner, if you aren’t going to be doing things yourself. Expenses can look very low, which makes the site price look great, if the owner is doing all of the work involved.
Calculate how much that will cost you to outsource – if that’s what you want to do – before you work out whether you’re making a good buy or not. Besides that, enjoy the process and the journey of making money from the internet.
I hope this post helps you get the most out of one of my favorite websites and encourages those who are reluctant to try it out, see the site in a new light and give the service a go.
Glen Allsopp is a blogger who writes about viral marketing. If you build blogs you may enjoy his guide to wordpress seo.
Comments (16)
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July 14, 2010 - 12:08 pm
Glen, fantastic advice here.
It is crucial to look for consistant revenue over at least a year if possible. Product launches can really spike and in turn distort revenue and many buyers have been caught out.
You’ve really highlighted the need for proper due diligence and patience.
Great site are listed all the time and if you miss one, there will be another listed tomorrow, so take panic buying out of the equation and most mistakes will be avoided.
Thanks for the post
July 14, 2010 - 6:08 pm
Hi Danny,
Really glad that you enjoyed the article. Thanks for the comment! I couldn’t agree more on the product launch comment – definitely one to watch out for.
July 15, 2010 - 1:38 am
Glen:
Good post. Your point about looking for profit spikes is a good one. There is actually a guy who wrote an ebook on how to create these types of flips – where you launch a product either via a JV or WSO and make tons of money on the launch – and then you flip it here on Flippa and make even more. It’s great for the seller but as a buyer you can get burned if you don’t have a plan as to how you’re going to market the product.
Hopefully with posts like this and various website flipping blogs like your’s, mine, and Danny’s, buyers will become more educated:)
Travis
July 15, 2010 - 2:10 am
I agree, often it seems like so many websites to day are overly complicated, with navigation that is counter intuitive, designed by geeks, but often I hear from clients that the system is just too hard to use, but this is not an idle observation, I see this online in a variety of corporate websites, where the GUI is so difficult to use that most quests just give up, it would be nice to see a return to the user friendly world where we use to live.
July 15, 2010 - 2:12 am
Hi!
So true, i have to commend on this post. We it’s a good reminder to be aware of what you are buying, really applies in real life if you’re buying goods, who wants to buy rotten fruits ?
Cheers!
Solomon
July 15, 2010 - 3:17 am
I may be attacked for this but I don’t mind being attacked for saying what is in my mind.
I view flippa as a dying market place and if something is not done urgently, I am predicting FLIPPA will not be in existent in the next 12 months.
Flippa.com may continue to be in existence in 12 months from now but it will not be as active as it use to be. No one should get me wrong, I don’t have the time and the expertise to compete with flippa but my believe is that this place is dying and the owners are looking.
I also want to point out that I am one of the people who appreciate this market place. As a Nigerian, I was ( in the past ) of the believe that one can not survive without doing what my mates were and are doing ( you know what I mean ) but still flipping changed everything for me, took away lots of quility conscience and I am a better person for it which is why I am so so disappointed with happenings in the market place at the moment.
I currently have a $400 per month site up for sale but the bids are not encouraging ( after 2 relists ) which is as a result of too many fraud on flippa these days. So many people are discouraged and it is bad for me, bad for flippa and bad for lots of site flipper who are honest.
I Pmed someone about a site I have up for sale as I know he has shown interest in my site before but here is what I got :
”
Not intrested had too many people ripping me off with websites already already in dispute with 2 people on here for funds back for sites they have
not given me access too pissed off with this site.
excuse me but im really annoyed at the minuite and good luck with the
sale
andy ”
And he is not the only one complaining. A Friend of mine from Australia was telling me about how her friend lost about 3,000USD to a stupid seller who sell to people and hack them to get the site back after 45 days. Methink it is high time flippa does something about the number of frauds on here.
I am a Nigerian and people always have this believe that anyone from this part of the world is a scammer but the truth is that so many scams are coming from Asia and East Europe ( sorry to the honest people from this parts of the world ) and yet nothing is being done to stop the rubbish that has been happening.
Flippa wants to make money by imposing the silly 5% success fee on us but you can actually make more money by putting in place an escrow service that will potect everyone. That will force your competitors out of business as no one will want to compete with a business who everyone is happy with, make buyers and sellers want to buy and sell more and everyone will be happy.
You own your market place and you can do anything you want with it but I am very sure that if you make it compulsory for everyone selling on flippa to sell only through your escrow service or through a well known escrow service such as escrow.com, you will make more money and that will take off alots of doubts from the minds of the seller and the buyer.
July 15, 2010 - 6:19 am
Wow, I couldn’t disagree with you more.
Have you seen the other website buying marketplaces? I’ll name the top two: ebay and wb.com (abbreviated). On eBay, you have ad nauseum turnkey site templates selling for $9.99. You can’t even find the real sites, because they’re buried in so much crap.
On the other, wb.com is closer to Flippa, but provides nowhere near as much information and requires way more due diligence to validate the owner’s claims. Which largely go unchallenged because there’s no comment section to open up a dialogue. It’s basically a site ad marketplace.
Flippa is the best site buying/selling community. Period. Since there’s a market for buying and selling sites, it needs to exist. Personally, I am trying to buy as many quality sites as possible.
With that said, what is Flippa to do about the fradulent and untrustworthy? Unless they create their own Escrow service, then nothing. You can’t control people’s actions after a sale. Unfortunately, they are enabling bad-doers a place to wreck their havoc. But they are also enabling do-gooders a place to do business and flourish.
As someone who has bought 5 sites, I have yet to have a bad experience. The sites were fairly well represented and I got what I wanted from the sale, at a price I was willing to pay. If you’ve relisted your sites three times, and it’s gone unsold, then obviously there’s a serious disconnect with your listing. Here are some reasons why sites don’t sell:
1. It looks bad. Why would you buy a site that is aesthetically subpar, when there are plenty in the same niche that look nice (or good enough)?
2. Your minimum bid is out of proportion with revenue. I find decent sites typically sell for $5,000-$6,000 per $1,000/mo revenue. That differs from Mr. Allsopp’s article above, but that’s my experience.
3. Your reserve is considered too high. See above.
4. Your Buy It Now is a work of fantasy. See the two items above.
5. The revenue is not supported by the traffic figures. If you say you make $2,500 a month with a $19.99 product from 500 visitors, I would suspect that number is inflated… unless you have a monthly recurring product.
6. Your adsense-supported site has similar traffic discrepancies as above. I have a site with 5,000+ visitors a month and only makes about $5/month in adsense clicks. The ads are prominently placed. Sure, some sites do better, but that’s my benchmark.
7. The domain name is crap. This-is-my-fantastic-domain-name-buy-now.info is a horrible, non-brandable domain name. I wouldn’t even bid. All my sites are memorable .com’s… except for one .net. But I want to get rid of that one. Anyone want to spend $50,000 for a memorable short-ish adult domain name?
8. You’re from a foreign country ‘with a certain reputation’. That’s not an ad hominem attack, just agreeing with one of your points. I’m just saying that it kind of works against you. So it would help if you were as forthcoming with as much information about the site as possible, to help alleviate that concern. I bet video walkthroughs would help.
9. It’s a niche or market segment people don’t want to enter into. All market segments are not created equally. I watch people go ape-crap for Twitter related sites. There are only so many hosted image sites, URL shorteners and the like that buyers are willing to snatch up. Your site idea might be stale or have ‘too much competition’ already. That’s a subjecting idea that only the buyer can decide.
Anyhoo, that’s my short list. Flame me if you want. ;p
Ansel Taft
July 15, 2010 - 3:52 am
Forgot to add that the $30 in my flippa account disappeared, sent email to flippa via the online support but got no reply after 48 hours.
July 15, 2010 - 5:58 am
@Abayomi Aje how can someone hack a site back if the domain has been transferred to the sellers register?
Now you can hack a site but can’t take a domain that has been transferred already or is there something that i do not get …
July 15, 2010 - 6:34 am
Just wanted to say thank you for the article Glen. You’re a guy I follow often and it’s cool to have this list of guidelines.
Much appreciated.
July 15, 2010 - 6:49 am
@ Ansel Taft thanks for the advise. I can confidently say my site meet all the points you have pointed out.
I even go as far as making sure I report every new sale made and update the screen shot any time there is a new sale.
I am still of the believe that this is directly due to the number of fraud attempts on flippa and where I come from. I am tempted to edit my profile not going to do that at least for now.
If people are so sterotype to believe every Nigerian is a scammer then I as a Nigerian who is proud of where he comes from should not do business with such people.
I just hope flippa can introduce their own escrow service so as to help people avoid being scammed.
@ serge, I am not sure how it happened but that is exactly what I was told and the guy that was doing that has now been banned by flippa.
July 16, 2010 - 12:10 pm
The guest post is a quality must but most importantly for me is the comment that has followed, I am a Nigerian too, I think I Aje is definitely speaking for majority of folks like me, though I am yet to list any site for sale ,I am planning on doing that very soon but with this comments, I am already overwhelmed with what I may get as a reaction to my listing, shouldn’t I be?
But been involved with some bidding process, I think an escrow account would not hurt anybody, it can be done with minimal delay, I want to make money from flipping of blogs just like Mr Aje has done, he is a living proof to some of us in Nigeria! kudos bro!
July 20, 2010 - 2:22 am
It is good to know Nigerians are on flippa. I just hope flippa will understand what they are doing to help get rid of scams from Nigeria. Just this weekend I was talking to some youths who need a way of escape from their scammy ways.
Flippa may not know it but the market place has helped me and so many other Nigerians who are into scam because the Government couldn’t provide for their needs.
Update : my site was sold for $2699 which is great.
July 29, 2010 - 3:30 am
I hope i am not late to the party? Most times, i get frustrated about making money online in a genuine way bcos of the reservations against us (Nigerians).
Anyways, that wont wight me down and i think flippa shud kinda introduce their escrow service and stop this scam.
October 20, 2010 - 10:54 pm
hello mr abayomi..my name is chuks..Have read so much about you and your achievements please i would like to know if your domain flip manual is still in the market. hope am not to late.please i would have attended your seminar..but wrk wont permit me..please help out
April 28, 2011 - 11:20 pm
Scammers should not only be located and arrested by an international task force, they should be jailed and raped repeatedly every day or put to death (slowly).
I was scammed by a Chinese outfit. I live thousands of kilometres away from China, so they thought that even though I had their address and fake names I would not do anything (like most people). I was able to track them and trace their location. 2 months later I had the two main scammers ears brought back to me in a box.
Plus I got my money back, and some.
Hiring “help” to do the dirty work in 3rd world countries is not only cheap, it is fulfilling. I think if I get scammed again I may pay an extra $200 and have the next ones eyes cut out and brought back to me.