Aged Domain Buying and Due Dilligence
Posted on May 19th, 2010 by Luke Moulton
Due to the popularity of one of our previous post on Flipping Aged Domains, I thought we’d have a chat to one of the experts, and the man behind DomainFace, Kenny Goodman.
Originally cutting his entrepreneurial teeth dominating the lead-generation side of some of the most hyper-competitive industries around – Finance, Telecommunications, Nightclubs and Skip Rental (Dumpster Rental), two of the businesses Kenny’s created to date have been valued at over $10,000,000.
What Kenny Goodman doesn’t know about aged domains, isn’t worth knowing, so we asked Kenny to share some of his aged domain buying and due diligence advice.
What should people look for in an aged domain and what kind of due diligence can be done before purchasing?
Choosing a domain name is one of the most important tasks when building a website and most people don’t know they can purchase ready made assets in the form of aged domain names.
There’s a huge stack of un-mined gold hitting the market everyday because a lot of aged domains come with hidden benefits attached which gives them a massive head start in terms of traffic and therefore money. I call these ‘Dynamite Domains’.
The trick is to know what these benefits look like and how to find them because it can make the difference between selling a website for $150 and selling it for $1500.
It’s also really important to know what to avoid so you don’t end up buying a big fat expensive dud!
So I’ll list the dos and dont’s as clearly as possible here:
Keywords – As with new domains keywords are also important in aged domains. Websites with keywords in the domain will find it easier to rank in the search engines than comparable websites without keywords in the domain. This means websites with ‘big keywords’ (keywords with lot of searches in Google or/and cost per click in Google AdWords is high) in the domain will usually have more traffic than comparable websites without the keywords and will therefore sell for a lot more
If for example you are targeting the car hire industry and you want to rank for the key phrase “car hire” then you would ideally want the keywords ‘car’ and ‘hire’ in the domain name. There are several options when looking for a domain
- Exact Match: The exact match domain for car hire would be CarHire.com or .net, .org etc. or if you are targeting a country specific niche then the country code domain name of that country – e.g. .co.uk for the UK. As you can see this is an exact match as it contains the words ‘car’ and ‘hire’ in that order and contains no other keywords. This is the ideal scenario when purchasing a domain but these are usually harder to find.
- Phrase Match: If exact match isn’t available then the next best thing is phrase match. An example of a prefix phrase match = MyCarHire.com or a suffix = CarHireOnline.com. As you can see they both contain the keywords car and hire in the right order but they also contain other keywords.
- Broad Match: If you are unable to find a suitable exact match or phrase match then the next best thing would be broad match. An example of a broad match = HirethisCar.com As you can see this contains the keywords ‘car’ and ‘hire’ but in a different order and it also contains the word ‘this’
- Semantic Match: An example of a semantic match domain for the same industry would be JoesAutomobileRentals.com. As you can see the domain is in the same industry and automobile rentals is semantically related to “car hire” but it doesn’t contain the keywords ‘car’ or ‘hire’ anywhere in the domain. This would be less desirable than any of the above if all other things were equal.
- Non Match: An example of a non match domain would be Hertz.com –Although Hertz is a big car hire company it clearly doesn’t have the keywords ‘car’ or ‘hire’ or any semantically related keywords anywhere in the domain and if all other things were equal it would be at a serious disadvantage to any of the above combination.
Domain Usage: What are you using the domain for? This will have a massive affect on your domain choice. If you are creating a review site for the office furniture market and your main key phrase is “office furniture” and you are unable to get the exact match domain then the next best thing would be OfficeFurnitureReviews.com for example.
Age of domain – you can check this manually by looking at the creation date on DomainTools.com. Older domains are better for SEO purposes. [LM: For websites and domain listed on Flippa, we show this in the auction's stats section.]
History – For SEO purposes it’s important the history of the domain is relevant to the niche you are targeting. Worse than a non-relevant domain would be a domain involved in any taboo industries such as adult or gaming – unless of course you are targeting these industries – horses for courses and all that….
You can check the history of most domains at archive.org.
Traffic/Popularity – If you cannot get access to the domain’s analytical data of then the next best thing is the Alexa ranking (Alexa.com). This isn’t very accurate but it does give an indication into the popularity of the domain. Lower numbers are better in this case.
Facebook, for example, has an Alexa ranking of 2 which means according to Alexa it is the 2nd most popular website in the world.

Coca-Cola.com has a ranking of 30,562 meaning it’s the 30,562nd most popular website.

As you can see Alexa also provide other metrics like creation date.
Another place to estimate popularity is Compete.com.
Google PageRank (PR) – Google award every web page on their index with a rank ranging from 0-10 with 10 being the highest and most authoritative – CNN.com for example has a PageRank of 10.
Each ranking is 10 times higher than the next so a PageRank 3 is ten times higher than a PageRank 2 and so on…
Although the data published by Google isn’t very accurate it still does give an indication and does affect the monetary value of a domain on resale so if you can get a domain with a PR4 and then add a website to it, you will get much more than if you built the website on a brand new domain with no PageRank.
SEO extensions for Google Chrome and Firefox provide this data.
Fake PageRank – One of the ways a PageRank can be faked is by redirecting a domain to a different domain with a higher PageRank.
The best way to manually check if this has occurred is to type into Google the following: info:www.insertdomainname.com and if a different domain name appears in the search results then it usually means the domain name has been redirected.
See example of fake PageRank 8 for a domain currently for sale on GoDaddy auctions – it has redirected its domain to a big web 2.0 site:

Back Links – If a domain has back links from niche specific authority news, educational or/and high PageRank sites, this will be a good indication of the authority of the domain.
You can check the back links of a domain by going to Yahoo and typing in: link:www.insertdomainname.com
For example MySpace.com has over 33 million back links:

You can do the same in Google but you will get less information back as they publish less.
Pages Indexed – The number of pages indexed in the search engines will again be another indicator of how much authority the domain has. The more pages indexed the better.
The number will be different for each search engine but the process is the same. So to check manually how many pages a domain has indexed with Google you would type in site:www.insertdomainname.com and then check the number of results produced.
Facebook.com has about 813 million pages indexed by Google:

DMOZ and Yahoo Listings – Both DMOZ and Yahoo have high-end directories and to get listed in these directories you need to jump through quite a few hoops so Google places high trust in them and therefore a listing will give a domain added authority.
To check whether a domain is DMOZ listed go to DMOZ.org and to check whether is Yahoo directory listed go to Search.Yahoo.com/dir.
Brand Ability – You may actually want to create a brand and don’t particularly bother about SEO. If this is the case then look for snappy, catchy and short (where possible) .com domain names. Facebook and Twitter for example don’t contain the keywords “social networking” but they have been able to create strong empires with good short and snappy domain names. Flippa is another example.
Trademarks – You’ve all probably heard of cyber squatting right? Well this basically means that someone has registered a domain name with a company trademark keyword in it. For example if I registered Microsoft.net or MicrosoftSoftware.info there is a strong chance that Microsoft would be able to claim the domain name from me and if I contested then they would probably have me pay their legal fees as well!
This is not a good place to be as it wastes time, energy and money so it’s always worth doing a trademark check before you buy a domain.
It’s very unlikely that generic keywords have been trademarked but it’s worth a quick check if you are unsure.
There’s different trademark directories for each country and the one for the US is tess2.uspto.gov.
If you are looking to do business in another country then do a search in the local Google typing in “trademark search”.
Choosing the right domain does take a good level of patience as the right domain may not be available on the Monday but the market may deliver it on the Tuesday.
[LM: For websites and domain listed on Flippa, we show many of the metrics Kenny has mention in the auctions stats area.]
Do you have any bidding strategies for domain auctions?
I only ever bid in the last 6 minutes of the auction. The more bids a domain has the more attention it will bring and will therefore become more attractive and will therefore attract more bidders creating a snowball affect – the less attention the domain gets early doors the better!
The big auction sites, including Flippa, have addressed this last second sniping by extending the auction if there are bids in the last 5 minutes, so in this case there’s no point bidding within this time period
What are some tactics/best practices when setting up a site on an aged domain?
- Host the domain in the country you are looking to target.
- Add an address for that country in the contact page or Terms and Conditions.
- Add content as fast as possible and this content should be relevant to the history of the domain.
- Check pages indexed and then re-create these pages with relevant content. If you don’t have time to do this then redirect the pages to the home page for now.
There are thousands of awesome dynamite domains hitting the market everyday and we are still very much at the beginning of a very immature, untapped market so now is the time to mine this gold because it coincides with a world wide recession meaning there are heaps of under valued domains in the marketplace right now.
On top of this, the majority of professional domainers out there don’t care about most of the SEO factors mentioned above and they don’t care about building high value sites – they just trade in domains. Some of them are sitting on awesome Dynamite Domains allowing them to sit in the parking lot gathering dust.
I call these “Old School Domainers”.
People like you and me want to renovate and invigorate these domains by building fully functioning, traffic generating high value websites with much bigger profit margins.
We are “IM Domainers” (Internet Marketing Domainers) – The New School!
Happy IM Domaining.
Comments (39)
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May 19, 2010 - 12:28 pm
seems like the usual things to look for when buying a domain.
I didn’t know about the fake PR thing though, so that’s something I’m going to start looking out for.
May 19, 2010 - 12:29 pm
Kenny is the man.
This stuff should be taught in schools.
All of a sudden you can create websites to flip that have real value and fetch great prices, all without the months and months of work it would take to do it from scratch.
May 19, 2010 - 12:52 pm
Indeed….A great article for newbies. A lot of opportunity out there if people follow the “Host the domain in the country you are looking to target.”.
May 19, 2010 - 1:43 pm
Great info provided here. Thanks Kenny for being so generous with your knowledge. I found your comment on detecting fake Page Rank particularly useful. In fact, I think I may need to blog about it as I’ve always wondered who you accurately detect fake Page Rank.
Travis
May 20, 2010 - 12:46 am
Kenny, Thank you as usual. Your advice is sound and indeed helpful. Since your last post, I have managed to acquire a couple of gems, as well as a couple of great sales – thanks to you!
Thanks
Andre
May 20, 2010 - 12:47 am
Thanks for the great information provided here! The fake page rank scheme was eye-openning. I had no idea about that scam!
Alan
May 20, 2010 - 12:48 am
“Each ranking is 10 times higher than the next so a PageRank 3 is ten times higher than a PageRank 2 and so on…”
I disagree with the above. The logarithmic base of the PageRank algorithm is known only by Google. Many people have estimated it to be between 4-8. If you have it on authority that it’s a factor of 10 for each PR level, I would like to know where from.
May 20, 2010 - 12:51 am
Great information and straight to the point. I for one have been kind of new to the whole domaining world. Started at SMX when I got an issue of Domainer. But ever since then I have been trying to wrap my head around it better this was an excellent post that I am going to have to reference for months to come.
May 20, 2010 - 12:51 am
Its a great article but i have one question related to domains that contain trademark.
I am actually confuse about trademarks.
let say gameboy is a trademark of gameboy.com
but i grab a domain with game-boy.com or .net or .org will it be a problem?
Let me know
Thanks
May 20, 2010 - 1:01 am
I am wondering where the author got the notion that toolbar PR is base 10 scale.
Research I specifically did on SitePoint back in 2002 pointed to it being a base 5 scale. I’ve never seen anyone else do any such research, and because of the infrequency of toolbar updates nowadays I don’t imagine it’d be very easy (not to mention the requirements of isolated page networks that contain high PR). Did the author do research to come up with that number, or just pick it? I’m be interested to know if there is proof it changed since I did my research.
http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=77168
May 20, 2010 - 1:10 am
Thanks for all the info. I heard of flippa a few months back but it really fits into what I am trying to accomplish right now. I have been taking riske lately and trying new things as far as domain/website flipping goes. Im just gonna go for it till something works, even though I realize I will lose some money along the way.
I now see that there are other people doing this exact same thing. Even though for the most part it seems that there is not a lot of money to be made with flipping (a few thousand a month), it still is a great skill to learn! I mean, how many people can can just say “okay, Im a little short on cash. I think Ill pull $200 out of my ass this week”? Its a great skill to have and I hope to catch on as most of you have.
Thanks for all the great articles!
May 20, 2010 - 1:10 am
I agree, extremely valuable article! Thank you!
Best regards,
Missy
May 20, 2010 - 1:21 am
You know when the magician tells all of the other magician’s tricks and the other magicians are pissed? That’s kind of how I’m feeling right now
Seriously, Kenny’s tactics are spot on and we’ve been using them to amass our portfolio for around five years.
It looks like we’re just going to have to start paying more for them now that everyone knows what to look for.
May 20, 2010 - 1:23 am
Nice tips for dealing a website, however one could easily get an overall look at a website by using this free online tool : http://ministatus.com , which prety much covers the points you’ve made
May 20, 2010 - 1:42 am
Whenever someone presents themselves as an “expert” they open themselves up to “critical review”, here is my review.
You did a really great job of spreading misinformation here because you missed the most important part of this discussion out completely.
Defining an “aged domain” – so what is an “aged domain” ?
For this purpose we are talking about the authority that is inferred upon a domain from Google because it has been regularly and consistently developed by its owners over a long enough period that it has earnt some crediblity for doing so.
So
1, the age of a domain is determined from the first cache that Google shows for the domain, not the registration date.
and more importantly
2, If a domain has been parked for 4 years without development it is NOT an “aged” domain, it is a “parked” domain – you cant possibly think that Google see them the same ….
3, If a domain is dropped and then reinstated it is a “dropped domain” NOT “aged domain”.
Look the bottom line here is simple, most of the things that Google do are about providing some SEO bias to sites that earn their trust, respect and authority over a period of time and then maintain that trust. Why would they infer any value to a domain that was registered 6 years ago and then parked.
It is NOT 2001.
Aged domains do exist, and you can buy them but they are site that have been under regular and constant development and have earnt the trust of Google for doing so – as such they are not cheap.
What you are describing are not “aged domains”.
May 20, 2010 - 1:47 am
If you are looking to buy a real “aged domain” look for sites that are for sale on here or approach existing sites and ask them if they are interested in selling that have a history of development, that is is what aged domain means.
You don’t have to have PR 8 or 1000′s of pages of content to be considered “aged” – look you either get this or your don’t enough said.
May 20, 2010 - 1:50 am
The tip on trademark is really helpful. I always wondered how to find if the word in my domain violates or infringes any trademark. Will bookmark the link. Thank you.
May 20, 2010 - 2:07 am
In the days before Kenny Goodman I used to be able to snap up domain names and there would be 1 or 2 other bidders, now there is 8 bidders on average since the launch of Domain Samurai and Domainface.
Sure it makes life easier, but also more competative!!
May 20, 2010 - 2:37 am
Branding and trademark is one of the most important here aside of course for SEO. I recently got a purchase offer for my blog at $5,000. I asked my friends and fellow bloggers if I should take the offer and they said ‘no’.
May 20, 2010 - 3:07 am
I like that phrase…..sort of like
Life before Kenny
Thanks man….I’m off to do the business.
Peter
May 20, 2010 - 3:10 am
This is a great “short course” on how to evaluate domain names and websites. You’ve saved a lot of people time and money by providing this succint post with material many gurus have charged big bucks for.
May 20, 2010 - 4:27 am
There are a lot of question you need to ask your self before you buy a aged domain. Great analysis and advice!
May 20, 2010 - 4:39 am
I acquired this site a few months ago.I bought it from Australia little did I know. There wouldn’t be any support from the seller once it was up and running. The seller also said that it would be able to make money. Then again I found out after having this site from March and no money made. This showed me that there would be problems in the near further. I have sense brought the site over to the US finding support here seems a little better. Still there hasn’t been any revenue made as to this date. I found when making a purchase and if the site doesn’t report any money then it may not generate any cash flow. These are things which buyers should be aware of.
May 20, 2010 - 4:57 am
Superb writeup! Could not have said it better myself
May 20, 2010 - 2:06 pm
Nice summary about the subject and yes, I have paid big bucks to get the same info previously.
May 20, 2010 - 11:02 pm
that great info, how now if iwant to sale this domain name stripingdance.com
May 20, 2010 - 11:18 pm
Hi I disagree got a website less than two weeks ago and it was born 7 years ago. The wayback shows nothing on it it. It had no links at all was surprised I found a one word keyword site for $10 but bought it then found it had age. Now it has had content on it for less than two weeks and is already ranking well. I have a site with basically the same stuff on it 3 times the backlinks and the new one word site is killing it so I disagree that it had to have had googles blessing and content and trust etc.
May 21, 2010 - 11:25 pm
this is a useful post.
Find a good aged domain really need patience and luck.
May 22, 2010 - 1:58 am
It is great information Kenny and- you will always get people who want to “keep it all to themselves” Which is the major reason Gurus keep ripping us off and selling us “BS” forever.
Also you can always learn how to get your site indexed and ranked in 27 minutes on page 2 in Google at number 3 and onto The first page and in the top 3 in Google 48 hours. I have a number of sites that rank in all search engines simultaneously less than a week old.
Beats time and research on an “aged” domain and finding it has bad affiliations, the domain name needs changing etc…
At the end of the day getting your website ranked fast in the top 3 in Google, Bing and Yahoo for the any site is gonna be profitable and I am happy to let them sit there and “age”
all the best Phil
May 22, 2010 - 5:06 pm
Interesting comment there Stratplayer1. I’d sure like to hear how to get ranked anywhere on the first 3 pages of Google in less than a week. I’ve been trying for months and still nowhere near page 1.
May 27, 2010 - 2:51 am
He didn’t include any data on the competitiveness of his keywords Ray. That is a rather important datapoint.
Claims like this are often used to sell SEO services to small business owners, and yes, magically you can get ranked #1 on say “skunk removal des moines” without much work, but that success will not translate to a more competitive keyword.
May 22, 2010 - 11:49 am
Hi, when you are talking about the more content the better for the page indexed, i believe you are talking about site flipping rather than domain flipping? What would you suggest if i am just to keep a domain for age and do nothing about it?
Simon
May 26, 2010 - 1:28 am
Find a good aged domain really need patience and luck.
June 1, 2010 - 11:07 pm
Does anyone else have the experience of traffic and adsense earnings both drying up the moment money changes hands from buyer to seller?
November 22, 2010 - 6:12 am
Great information Kenny.
If the http://www.CarHire.com is taken, would http://www.HireCar.com be an option?
December 15, 2010 - 10:13 am
hi, thanks for sharing the your opinion.really is good.The seller also said that it would be able to make money. Then again I found out after having this site from March and no money made. This showed me that there would be problems in the near further.
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January 10, 2011 - 12:28 pm
Fantastic article, thanks for creating and posting it.
February 1, 2011 - 11:32 pm
Buying aged domains is really good, but one needs to make sure that the domain is not penalized. Always check the web archive and history before buying.
June 14, 2011 - 12:51 am
Wow, I’ve only just found Flippa had a blog, and I’ve learnt more from two articles than I have in the past two weeks! What a fabulous resource, I will add that part to my site http://www.shelleybailey.com if that’s alright? I didn’t know how to check for fake page rank either, interesting! Some sneaky peeps out there…
Does anyone know a quick way to type the keyword you want in your domain in somewhere and come up with a list of aged domains with that keyword in? There must be one somewhere!
Shell