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dreamdates.com, a premium online dating sites is for sale

We are offering dreamdates.com for sale, since we need to focus on our other on line businesses.

http://www.dreamdates.com/

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Listed:
Thu, 06 Nov 2008 06:33:02 GMT

Accepted Payment Methods: Electronic Transfer, Escrow.com

Description

dreamdates.com established in 2000 has about 100,000 Free members and a small number of paid members.

Given the super branding potential of the domain name of dreamdates.com, If properly advertised it can generate significant sales, either form paid membership if the service is operated as Free and Paid as is now,
or from Advertising revenues if the service is operated as a Free Advertiser supported service.

FYI: At one point in 2002 we were offered $250,000 just for the domain of dreamdates.com, but we turned it down.

In closing:

You should want to buy dreamdates.com for the following factors:
1- It has been in existence/business since 1997
2- It has about 100,000 free members
3- But above all, that it is a great domain name with "Hard to Match" branding potential. That is dreamdates.com has the potential for branding on the same level as some of the Top brand names in the World. So the capital invested in Advertising the name of dreamdates.com should yield the highest return on investment
You should not be interested in buying dreamdates.com for our Traffic since for the last few years we have spent ZERO Dollar in marketing dreamdates.com since our focus has been on our other online business.

Couple of NOTES:

1- currently dreamdates.com is being hosted on a single dedicated server at the very low cost of $100 per month. So you can either take over the payment of this server or just move everything to your own servers.
2- We can accept an installment payment IF you are located in US and have good credit ratings. Otherwise payment must be in full before we transfer the domain to you.

 

Revenue Details

Revenues currently come from Paid membership (aka Full Membership) and from purchase of Tokens which allows to you to send few messages at a time and to accept Collect calls.

Full Membership fees are:

$24.95 for monthly membership

$49.95 for quarterly membership

$79.95 for semi-annual membership

$99.95 for annual membership

 

Token fees are:

20 Tokens - Basic package - $14.95
40 Tokens - Value package - $24.95
100 Tokens - Super Value package - $49.95

Traffic Details

Currently just from people entering the domain name of dreamdates.com or searching for dream date, dream dates, etc. on the search engines, where dreamdates.com generally has the 1st ranking.

P.S., the figures given above for Uniques/Month and Page views/month are just best guesstimate.

Questions 16 public, 0 deleted

  1. Avatar for site_searcher
    Posted by:
    site_searcher (+3)
    Date:
    Thu, 06 Nov 2008 08:04:59 GMT

    could you send me your bin price please?

  2. Avatar for elacey
    Posted by:
    elacey (+1)
    Date:
    Thu, 06 Nov 2008 08:45:00 GMT

    Well, how many of the profiles on the site are bogus? Solid domain, but not niche enough to be particularly profitable off of subscriptions. Also, why are your traffic stats guesstimates?

  3. Avatar for davidkessel
    Posted by:
    davidkessel (+3)
    Date:
    Thu, 06 Nov 2008 14:16:16 GMT

    Please verify phone and site access.

  4. Avatar for rockwell44
    Posted by:
    rockwell44 (+4)
    Date:
    Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:09:19 GMT

    is there a search feature that allows you to search by zip code or only by country.

  5. Avatar for majorgood
    Posted by:
    majorgood (+3)
    Date:
    Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:51:40 GMT

    In reply to: elacey

    At dreamdates.com we strive to make sure all members are real and for this we do IP location look up
    for each member signed. Of course this cannot gauruntee that 100% of members are real.
    But FYI: in a typical day we reject 40% of the sign-ups because we cannot be sure they are real
    and block their IPs if we sense they are fraudsters and on that note to date we have more than
    100,000 IPs blocked. So we do the out most possible to make sure members that join dreamdates.com
    are real. But of course the ultimate factor in this regard is that you need to pay to become a
    full member and this ensures that full members are real since someone using credit card fraudulently
    to join as full member will be caught as such in matter of days or weeks and removed.

    About why are our traffic stats "guesstimates", I do not know how to obtain reliable data in this
    regard. I mean there is Alexa.com but I do not really understand their data. You are of course
    welcome to look up dreamdates.com where you like in regard to the traffic.

  6. Avatar for majorgood
    Posted by:
    majorgood (+3)
    Date:
    Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:53:26 GMT

    In reply to: davidkessel

    I just verified my phone number.

    Not sure what you mean about "site access"!

  7. Avatar for majorgood
    Posted by:
    majorgood (+3)
    Date:
    Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:56:35 GMT

    In reply to: rockwell44

    Yes, there is a search feature to search by country.
    And once having selected the country, if the selection is USA, Canada, or UK, you can then
    search by city.

    Of course we/you can develop the search by Zip code feature as well.

  8. Avatar for godigitalllc
    Posted by:
    godigitalllc (+2)
    Date:
    Thu, 06 Nov 2008 17:26:34 GMT

    Do you have proof of revenue, traffic details, number of paid members? Are the membership monthly or yearly?

    Are you wishing you had sold the domain before? :)

  9. Avatar for majorgood
    Posted by:
    majorgood (+3)
    Date:
    Thu, 06 Nov 2008 20:18:52 GMT

    In reply to: godigitalllc

    Yes, we do have proof of revenues. You can just check our bank statements showing the
    daily deposit from Visa/MC/Amex sales.

    No, we have no traffic details. As I said you are welcome to check any traffic
    reporting source you want.

    Number of paid members currently is very small, less than 100.
    As I said we are doing NO Advertising of the site at all, that is why traffic
    and sales are way way down. And that with proper advertising, given the brand potential
    of dreamdates.com, that you could see in quick order significant traffic and sales.

    Paid membership curretly offered are: monthly, quarterly, semi-annual and annual.

    And yes, in hindsight that was a good offer in 2002 :)
    But who could have predicted the financial crisis that we are having now, well during
    the last 2 years really, which has prevented us from raising the capital that we need to
    grow our businesses and instead we have to sell off businesses to raise capital. But
    looking at it from the other perspective, that is if you are a buyer and can buy, build and hold long
    term, whether businesses, real estate, stocks, etc. then this is perhaps the best time in a
    generation to buy since the prices are so usually depressed.

  10. Avatar for superamizade
    Posted by:
    superamizade (+4)
    Date:
    Sat, 08 Nov 2008 08:48:26 GMT

    majorgood, two days ago I registered with dreamdates.com, and uploaded a photo, this was to test the features, etc.

    A day later I received an email stating that my account has been deleted. What criteria are you currently using to determine if a member is good enough to be on the site. Granted I do understand the importance of ensuring you have real people, but it appears that the person administering this site can't tell the difference. Maybe you deleted my account because it has an African IP...but I'm a north american.

    1) How many members are actively accessing the site on a monthly basis?
    2) In regards to site statics, you say that you don't do you not have access to your server/site information?
    3) Are you the owner of the site?

    Thanks in advance

  11. Avatar for majorgood
    Posted by:
    majorgood (+3)
    Date:
    Mon, 10 Nov 2008 05:39:17 GMT

    In reply to: superamizade

    We use strict guidelines as to whom is admitted into dreamdates.com so as to keep up fraudsters
    and those who are not serious about finding their (dream) date.
    Of course no such screening system can be 100% accurate in either stopping 100% of all bad
    people or occasionally stopping a good person.
    From what you are telling me your application was flagged and removed because your IP was
    from Africa while your registration said you are from US. FYI, this is a typical pattern
    of fraudsters, as there are gangs operating out of East Africa, like Nigeria, which fraudulently
    say they from US, UK, Canada, but their IP shows them to be from Nigeria, so we routinely
    delete and block such sign-up. OTN, your experience shows/proves how real the dreamdates.com
    membership is and our mission was to truly be a best place for finding your dream date.
    You can PM me your IP and email and I will un-block you.

    Regards,

  12. Avatar for susanne boyle
    Posted by:
    susanne boyle (+8)
    Date:
    Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:55:41 GMT

    Will you send me our bin price, please. Also, when was the last seo work performed. Is the site easy to work on?

    Thank you.

  13. Avatar for veneficus
    Posted by:
    veneficus (+3)
    Date:
    Fri, 14 Nov 2008 01:06:28 GMT

    I just can't find any reason your site would get more than 50 uniques a day, let alone 50k a month.
    How did you promote this in the past to get 100k members?

  14. Avatar for majorgood
    Posted by:
    majorgood (+3)
    Date:
    Fri, 14 Nov 2008 05:44:06 GMT

    In reply to: veneficus

    As I have written on the description of this business (Web site) for sale in clearest terms possible:

    You should not be interested in buying dreamdates.com for our Traffic since for the last few years we have spent ZERO Dollar in marketing dreamdates.com since our focus has been on our other online business.

    You should want to buy dreamdates.com for the following factors:
    1- It has been in existence/business since 1997
    2- It has about 100,000 free members
    3- But above all, that it is a great domain name with "Hard to Match" branding potential. That is dreamdates.com has the potential for branding on the same level as some of the Top brand names in the World. So the capital invested in Advertising the name of dreamdates.com should yield the highest return on investment

  15. Avatar for dylanloh
    Posted by:
    dylanloh (+4)
    Date:
    Sat, 22 Nov 2008 06:21:13 GMT

    Hello,

    1. Do the new owners have flexibity in deciding the admission criteria for the sign ups?
    2. How are the 100,000 members maintained? Through the inhouse autoresponder or something else? Do you've
    screen shots of the 100,000 members?
    3. I see you've an affiliate program, how are payments, tracking etc for affiliates handled?

    Dylan

  16. Avatar for majorgood
    Posted by:
    majorgood (+3)
    Date:
    Tue, 25 Nov 2008 05:53:53 GMT

    In reply to dylanloh:

    1- Well as the new owner of dreamdates.com you will get the source code so you can do what you want
    with the the admission criteria for the sign ups. Please note: if you want we can do such custom
    development for you, or of course you can do it yourself or have some other programmers do it for you.

    2- Member records are maintained in a MySQL database.

    3- Affiliate tracking is done via Cookies. Payments to Affiliates is via Paypal or any method
    you would like it to be. And affiliates can log into their dreamdates.com Affiliate account and
    check out the Traffic that they have sent dreamdates.com over X period and how much sales they
    have generated, how much commissions are due to them, etc.

    If any other questions, please do not hesitate to ask.

    Cheers,

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